Why Are Women So Nasty to Each Other?

How in the world were those answers judgemental??

Anyways, the only thing I wanted to reply to was that in deed some of us do know each other personally. I've met one of my best friends on this site, and keep in touch with others on social media. Most of the moms on here are wonderful people, who give as good as they get.

i think you're the PERFECT person to answer your own question, since this one of the nastiest posts and SWHs i've encountered yet.
how did you delete your previous account? that doesn't seem to be an option for most of the nasty judgmental bitchy moms here.
and if you know how, why are you 'looking for a way' to do it again?
who's got a gun to your head forcing you to post and respond right now?
:/ khairete
puzzled S.

Good grief, stop bitching, sign out and never sign back on.

No need to preach to us.

Bye!

Um, I missed the drama, but you are telling other to be kind, when you are obviously not being kind yourself. Especially if you are messaging people with profanity. That really doesn't give you a leg to stand on, much less a stone to throw toward this group of women.

For you to claim 'we are so mean' is entirely disingenuous of you. Please, go find other people to rail at. This isn't your audience.

I have whey protein, several varieties, and none contain soy. Jay Robb's, Whole Foods house brand, Sprouts house brand, all soy-free.
Jay Robb's also has an egg white based one, and I also have a pea-protien based soy-free one I love from Garden of Life called Raw Protien.

Soy is a headache trigger for me (one of many), so I have to avoid it.

ETA: Can I offer some other advice? I gave you a good, straightforward answer, as did MamaR. Why not pay attention to people offering you the advice you asked for instead of those answers you were not looking for? I'm willing to bet if you left your question up more people would have responded with suggestions for soy-free products.

Good grief. I read your original post and the answers. You got some wonderful answers. What is the deal? I'm sorry but the only person I have seen being snotty and bratty is you.

Geez! You're upset about women being mean. Seems your response is to also be mean. So you tell us why women are mean.

Re the question about the Mirena. Every answer but one gave the pecific Information on the Mirena. You asked for their experiences and they gave you their experiences. What's mean about that? Apparently you asked about soy. I don't see that anyone was mean in their responses.

It is not possible to delete an account. You deactivate an account by not using it.
Because you asked about the effects of using the Mirena and then about soy, all of which are related to hormones I wonder if hormones or lack of them is making you mean.

Just so you are up to date, the ONE single article some years back about how soy is bad for women, and which was then repeated and republished, has been completely and totally refuted by all research since. The British medical journal that published it retracted it long ago, saying it was faulty research and unverifiable. Food scientists and cancer scientists don't even debate it anymore because they don't consider it worthy of discussion. Breast cancer authority Dr. Susan Love is not anti-soy, neither is Dr. Dixie Wells. Phytoestrogens in soy do NOT stimulate or fuel estrogen-dependent cancers. Moreover, the lunasin peptide in the soybean is an anti-cancer agent and is the most highly researched cancer preventive agent - go to pubmed.gov and search "cancer lunasin" or "lunasin cancer" - this is a compendium of all the government research papers. All the major studies for breast cancer now show that survivability is greater and recurrence is lower in women who consume a high quality soy product.

You need non-GMO soy and also one with a high lunasin content (which you won't get in grocery store soy products), and it has to be natural (non-synthetic) soy in order to get the benefit, BUT you will not incur any damage or higher incidence of cancer if you consume regular soy (other than the concern about GMO crops in general - but that applies to every single product, fruit and vegetable you eat).

Lunasin has also been shown to slow the metastasis of colon cancer reduce cholesterol, improve immunity, and more studies are due shortly which are showing improvement in COPD and asthma. Some of these are in conduction with a multifaceted protein and nutrient powder, some are stand-alone.

In fact, there is very little in the soybean itself that causes allergic reactions - in most people, that doesn't occur. Those who have soy sensitivity are almost always reacting to the processing agent (alcohol, hexane) or other synthetic that's involved.

If you want the studies, let me know specifically what your concerns are. There are way too many of them to just send you 200 links!

You don't need to delete your account just sign out and never sign in again.
Same as anything else, if you didn't like a store would you keep walking in the door? Of course not, so why are you doing it here?
Oh right, because you are a troll.
Shoo troll shoo, far far away where we can't see you :-)

I didn't see this question, but I think your problem with the Mirena question was that initially you didn't mention that you weren't interested in Paragard. Many people ask about IUDs and often only mention Mirena because they aren't that aware of Paragard - those of us that are Paragard users want to make sure they are aware there is another option. And we sure don't know about your problem with symptoms if you don't tell us.

I just went and read the answers you received and I really don't know what you are in a huff about with that one - just about every answer on there (except for the first one that was obviously posted before your SWH) was giving you the exact information you asked for.

Edited to remove the name of the member whose post starts with "I feel your pain." It's a great response, and I thought it deserved a second reading.

ORIGINAL--------------------------------------
Generally, I stay out of the fray, but I have some time while my tea is brewing, and for some reason, I feel compelled to respond. So…...

If you are still "listening," I'd like to share my thoughts.

People are different and have different ways of responding. Some people read the post and grab onto one little aspect that really isn't central to the question. Others can't resist going off on a marginally related tangent. Some people don't bother reading for detail and miss important elements that make their answers less than useful. BUT….this should never negate the useful parts of their posts, AND this should never overshadow the many other posts that offer so much assistance.

Sometimes, there are some rude responses, but that is part of life. It's something you can't control. It can also be very subjective and open to interpretation, so again, why let that get in the way of ALL THE GOOD STUFF?

No two human beings agree 100% of the time on every aspect of every issue. The wide range of human variability is far too great for that. Think about it. Do you agree with your best friends or your spouse, or your family members all of the time on EVERY single thing?

Even the people on this forum I seem to be 'in sync' with most of the time still have different takes than I do on certain topics.

Over the many years I've been here, with each passing year, I have come to really value the differences in the range of responses and have learned from just about everybody….even the very people who share polar opposite views than I hold on some pretty important issues. These differences help me to see things from other perspectives, and even in the end, if I still disagree, it reminds me, once again, how varied we are, and that not only is that okay, it's just the way it is.

I do know some of the people here outside of the forum. The first is the mom who introduced me to MP many years ago. I've known her since our kids were in preschool together. She's not on much anymore, though.

The other member was a very dear friend of mine. She lived across the street from me, and we didn't realize we were both on MP until we started talking one day. Sadly, this dear friend passed away last April. She and I didn't always agree on everything, but I loved her dearly and miss her like crazy. I learned so much from her.

Because so many of us have been here for so long, there are some moms here I feel I know, although we've never met. I can pretty much tell before I see a name who is writing the post, and sometimes, before I read the responses, I predict who will say what. I've got a pretty good batting average there. : )

There are SO many here I admire and respect and look forward to "seeing" when I check in. I know there are a few who'd be friends in real life if we lived nearby. And yes, a few where I roll my eyes. But that, again, is life.

There is so much more good than bad, so much value here, IF you can learn to sift through and find what is HELPFUL to you. Not always what you want to hear, but what will HELP you with your issue. I hope you are still reading. And if you are? Please go back and read XXX X's response. It really gets to the heart of this matter.

Take a break from MP when you need, and come back with a fresh look and open mind. I think, in time, you'll be glad you did.

Wishing you the best.

J. F.

So I didn't read the other question because I don't have any information on IUD's at all, no experience there.

I just read this question though and wanted to respond to your SWH mention of NO ONE knowing anyone from this site. WRONG! I have met one and she is a great friend of mine outside of this site. Several others I have connected with on FB and would love meet up with them! Some I connected with outside of this site and it just wasn't a good match, but I still feel like I "know" them by more than a username on this site.

Maybe get to know some of the mom's on here and you'll see that people are giving honest opinions (like you asked for) and not trying to be nasty. Sometimes when we get advice that we don't agree with it can seem nasty, when it's not at all.

Yoli YES shakes are soy free, and actually taste pretty good. Isagenix and shakeology are also soy free, but like Yoli they are shakes and not just protein powder. You also might want to consider adding PB2 (powdered peanut butter) to your smoothies for added protein without the added fat.

Food Babe has a good article about protein powders:
http://foodbabe.com/2012/12/13/the-healthiest-protein-pow...

ETA: Ok, I'm going to assume since you're posting on here as a mom that you are an adult. So put on your big girl panties and skip over the responses you don't like. You attacked the very first person who took time to answer your question. When you do that you are bound to get people who respond to your attack and not your question. YOU sidetracked the post with your attack, not all of the responders.
At the end of the day does it matter to anyone that some random person on an internet forum thought you were crazy/hormonal/troll/bitchy/uninformed etc etc? Of course not, so just ignore and move on.

I LOVE your line "considering that NONE of us know each other"....

(sigh) yes, we do. Yes, some of have actually met. & a glorious bunch, we are! Others...I am happily anticipating meeting one day. Makes for a fantastic bucket list!

I originally joined because a good friend recommended this site. She has since left due to the drama. Another friend left due to the drama. I'm sticking it out. Entertainment for when I'm bored & stuck in my home. :)

I feel your pain. If I couldn't tolerate unsolicited details and irrelevant judgmental jabs sprinkled into my specific questions on this site, I would have stopped using it long ago. But I've gotten lots of valuable advice that has helped me greatly as well.

There isn't a single post a person can write where there isn't going to be that one contrary person to change the whole tide of answers. Or that one person who's going to say paint is bad for the environment and they never use paint if you ask people their opinion specifically on which color to paint your kitchen. Or that person who just pops on to say you shouldn't have asked your question. Or that person who hates you from past posts so they're responses will always be negative.

Though over time, people tend to mellow out if you don't fight with anyone.

Here's what you do. You ask about Mirena. People will tell you about Mirena and Paragard and condoms and rhythm methods and female circumcisions and how the government wants to control our bodies and rob us blind and how based on your past posts you're really a man. The more you specify to ONLY answer one aspect of the post, the more people will add in unwanted stuff. It's the spice of life after all.

Then you only pay attention to the parts about Mirena and ignore the rest. Or amuse yourself with the gratuitous peanuts from the gallery.

Don't go! No one will remember what you posted in five minutes. I've never gone back and researched a history. And even if people do, they don't know you in real life. Stay and don't sweat it!!

I remember your question and I remember you specifically asked about the Mirena. I didn't think your question was rude in any way.

People do it all the time on here. People will say: Trying to decide between the Honda Odyssey and the Toyota Sienna and other moms will jump in and tell her to get a Subaru Outback. Um, she asked about two specific vehicles...

Sorry, I hope you got some good answers.

Too bad you're so stubborn. You might actually learn something while looking for an answer to something else. You don't get to demand that people only answer ONE THING when you come on here. There's a large pool of understanding and info out in the world. If you just want to see one slice of it, that's YOUR bad. Not everyone else's.

You're the judgmental one and we won't miss you being on this forum.

Reading the answers is always cringe worthy! You can tell a lot about a person by the specific items they insist on latching onto in your question.

My honest answer to your question (which used to piss me off when I first heard my husband say but now that I'm older, I fully agree with)
Is:

People are basically stupid. That's why.

Hi,

I had answered your Mirena question - I can't remember exactly what it was you asked, but I just said I had done ok on it - maybe you only wanted answers if people hadn't?

If so I apologize :) Sometimes I haven't had enough coffee when I respond.

I think you are right about something: this place has a strong group of women who think they have the right answer. Collectively, they like to hear themselves speak, think they have some truth to speak, and have no problem saying it even at the expense of someone else. Yes, it's a judgmental group of women -myself included.

There is some good advice here, and just as much non-necessary negativity. Women are judgmental and mean. Why? It's easier to validate your own choices by ripping someone else apart. Just pass by and ignore those responses you find hurtful.

I am sorry to hear of your late miscarriage. That must have been a terrible loss.